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Do you find the national media frenzy surrounding our voting shirt a bit confusing? Do you wish there was someplace you could go where everybody knows your name? Or at least where you can find a selection of relevant quotes on the issue at hand? Rest easy, my sweet child. The research department here at Camp Cool scoured the Internet to bring you the following snippets -
That reminds me: did you all hear about the "Voting is for Old People" T-shirt? A bunch of people are up in arms, claiming that it's "sending the wrong message to our nation's youth," or something like that. Here's my take on the matter: anyone stupid enough to be convinced not to vote by a T-shirt slogan wasn't adding anything but randomness to the election anyway. If Urban Outfitters' witty T-shirt kept you away from the polls, then I think the biggest tragedy is that they removed the possibility you'd accidentally injure yourself badly by holding the stylus the wrong way around. - some random blogger
The shirt is meant to get the attention of everyone that sees it. I wear mine and people laugh, sometimes asking me why I have it on. I tell them it's to point out the truth-- that historically, in past years voting has been a fogey thing. I like the shirt because it generates dialogue. To dismiss it at FACE VALUE because it looks unpatriotic, counterproductive or insensitive is silly and impossibly close-minded. It's clear to anyone who ponders this shirt, that it's meant to encourage voting among young people, not put it down. - andrew j (blogger extraordinaire)
NPR aired a story about the T-shirt controversy today. They also named the designers, Vintage Vantage, who are responding to the negative press in the most immature fashion possible. An example is the February 18th post on their press page where they make fun of Kat Storemski, the woman featured in the MTV interview by calling her a "dork" and making this mocking graphic. The next post makes fun of Russell Simmons for speaking out, and a glance at their product page for the shirt calls upon "the Camp Cool faithful" to support them. So yes, we're dealing with assholes here.
Wow. Yeah, they sound like real assholes. Then again, I wonder if people are over-reacting, even giving these jerks the attention they crave? I saw Harvard got involved in the debate. Aren't there more important political topics today? Either way. Wow. What assholes (the shirt people).
Just wanted to say in leiu of all the craziness goin' down with your voting shirt... YOU ARE THE MAN! Don't let all these nay-sayers get all up in yo Kool-Aid! (...wall crashing down... "OH YEAH!") Just keep doin' your thang and it'll all turn out gravy. - the gools, longtime vv loyalist
How uptight, off track, and unhip can one person be? Dan Glickman? He has no credibility addressing this issue. Look at him. Does his wife shop at Urban Outfitters or at Vintagevantage.com, which is where this tee shirt is being sold? Or does his wife buy at Talbots where this tee shirt is NOT being sold? Is this tee shirt for him to wear around "The Club" or for his kids to wear in environs where political awareness is most needed? He shows no understanding about how young people will react to a tee shirt "Voting is for old people"!! His comments belittle the intellectual level of young people. He's saying that young people can't detect irony; they don't know that point often is counterpoint; and that they are unsophisticated. Maybe Dan Gickmans should truly listen to young people and try to understand how able they are to be smart instead of lumping them all into some pool of ignorance. Dan Glickman, Are you kidding? - Bob, Heather's dad
"Bad T-shirt! Bad!" - somewhere on the internet
Hell, when I vote this Nov., I guaran-damn-tee you that 90% of the people in my town that vote will be old. I'm wearing the shirt and I'm gonna see if I can hang with the GOPs! - Corey, VV customer
As a loyal VV buyer of originals and auctions alike, i just wanted to back you guys up on the whole "voting is for old people" media debacle. When I saw that piece on mtv, i would've puked if i hadn't spent the next hour laughing. The satirically ignorant girl in that segment could not have missed the point more... thanks for the great shirts, and keep it up, there are people who do get it... - Timmy G, VV customer
Looks like you've already taken some heat about the voting T, so it should come as no surprise that Bill Maher held it up during a conversation with l'il Ralphie Nader on hbo tonight. He said something to the effect of, 'yeah but stupidity is for young people.' Damn you VV, damn you we do. - Jason D
I'm loving the whole debate on the "Voting is for old people" shirt. I ordered the shirt last month and love it. My dad is a politician (town council) and laughed his ass off, saying it's more than likely the truth. It's a shirt, go piss and moan over some dead whales or the war. Keep up the great designs. - C Holliday
I find your T-shirt "Voting is for Old People" to be an anti- American abomination... It is a disgusting effort to reap profit from cynicism while suppressing civic involvement, and encouraging apathy, not to mention referring to our senior citizens as "old people." - Al Jourgensen, Ministry
I can't believe that young people like yourself are even allowed to own their own companies. How irresponsible to be so creative. There should be a law against it. Give em hell JOHN. don't go changing to try and please em. I am going to order a shirt now before you run out. - J Jones
Imagine my excitement when I opened a Christmas gift from my girlfriend (who obviously has impeccable taste), only to find not one, but two vintage vantage t-shirts. I had been a fan of your site ever since finding it last fall. Also imagine the large smile on my face upon discovering that one of the shirts was the now infamous "voting is for old people" t-shirt, as I, a downright voting fanatic, am also a card-carrying irony-appreciator. I immediately understood that it was more an indictment of how pathetic my generation (sigh...) can really be. I also understood that my parents would hate it. What could be better?
All you need now is a shirt that says, "I'm young, and proud to waste my vote on whatever loser the media tells me to." Or would they not like that either? - Ian P
just thought i'd throw my two cents in the pile being a rabid fan of all things vintage vantage. that mtv story was classic, i absolutely loved the mock up screen printing image on that overly zealous chick from florida, its a freaking t-shirt, CALM DOWN! anyways just thought i'd throw some love your way, keep keeping it fresh. - Julian E, the freshest man in the world
Nice Drudge Report cameo this afternoon! As a matter of fact I wore my "voting" shirt yesterday and a professor of mine laughed. Some geysers get it. Keep up the amazing product! -Longtime customer
imagine my surprise when i saw a vv original on that holiest of holies, MTV2. that hottie suchin pak started talking about t-shirts and i was like, "whoa, pay attention kid." turns out some psycho wench went into the devil's den, urban outfitters, and emerged distraught over the "voting is for old people" t-shirt. seems as if the whole irony thing is just too damn complicated for shoppers/wannabe-political-activists. kat storemski should get a really bad cold sore... rot in herpes simplex I, sellout. thanks for allowing me to vent. your shirts bring a ray of sunshine into my life. play on, playa. - tom p
Violence, vulgarity, etc...that's offensive. It's not really funny to celebrate civic disengagement, but I'm not really offended by the slogan "Voting is for old people", because I vote for old people. I vote for poor people. I personally work with the local Supervisor of Elections to help old and poor people vote. I vote with the interests in mind of a lot of people who might be considered different from me, and when I vote for them, I'm voting for myself too.
There's considerable fuss over this new one from the retail chain Urban Outfitters. The offending garment says "Voting is for old people," and there's a little sketch of a ballot going into a box. Huge buckets of excrement are falling from great heights as several solemn, serious, slogan-spouting spokesmen of sincerity rant and roar about how voting is a profound duty, the heart of our democracy, blood on the beaches of Normandy, etc.
Am I the only post-40-year-old who remembers the pleasure of ticking off old folks by wearing a smart aleck T-shirt? J.D. Mullane, Phillyburbs.com
Our 2004 election stands to appreciate more than ever the effect of young voters, and the political presence 18 to 24-year-olds can potentially make for the swing vote in deciding our presidential administration. That's amazingly important. I did not know, however, that as a demographic, we were so susceptible to the peer pressures of a T-shirt. A T-shirt? Really? - Sarah Cutsforth, OSU Barometer
So we're banned in the USA, just like 2 Live Crew! We think it's hilarious. The t-shirt was created in the spirit of vintage vantage, which is witty, sarcastic, irreverent. Not offensive. The fact that it would make some uptight people uncomfortable is definitely part of the shirt's charm, but the shirt was never meant to be misconstrued as a political statement of any kind. We're still selling the shirt at vintagevantage.com, and hopefully seeing the shirt in the context of the website will help people understand why it was created and why they should take themselves a little less seriously. So now you know. And knowing is half the battle.
- John, in a statement to MTV News |